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Bangell Oxford 15 Jan 19 12.10pm
Originally posted by michaelpearce so player on a free who we dont know what he is being paid (daily mail rumors), who slowly linking with the forward line, whos young enough to develop into a good player lets not keep him no lets give up on him because you know best ,have we tried to play to his skills like we do with wilf?,we dont even do that with Wilf as i said about Teke didnt see him stop scoring,tell us who would you buy to replace the others,2 have gone one may go,wickham was a small risk couldnt see major injury which happened not a old injury,schlupp hit and miss but who would you buy to replace him, so we have 7 players that are current first team from wise spending, mistakes or chances will be made all clubs do them Edited by michaelpearce (15 Jan 2019 11.46am) Meyer is a nifty little player, and no, we don't play to his strengths. I think this is an example of poor recruitment because we're paying a lot for a player who doesn't fit our system. You didn't see Benteke stop scoring? 3 goals in his last 35 games, I think more than that. We got mugged off by Liverpool, dragging out that transfer until the end of the window and then caving in to their full demands. I don't know who I'd replace Schlupp with, but £13 million and £55k p/w for someone of Championship quality at best? Not wise spending. Yes there are some good buys in the team, but I think our recruitment is demonstrably poor from the over-inflated wages and transfer fees of many of our players, and the rarity with which we make a profit on anyone we sell on. We buy donkeys for gold and sell them for peanuts.
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Bangell

Oxford 15 Jan 19 12.10pm

Originally posted by michaelpearce

so player on a free who we dont know what he is being paid (daily mail rumors), who slowly linking with the forward line, whos young enough to develop into a good player lets not keep him no lets give up on him because you know best ,have we tried to play to his skills like we do with wilf?,we dont even do that with Wilf

as i said about Teke didnt see him stop scoring,tell us who would you buy to replace the others,2 have gone one may go,wickham was a small risk couldnt see major injury which happened not a old injury,schlupp hit and miss but who would you buy to replace him,

so we have 7 players that are current first team from wise spending, mistakes or chances will be made all clubs do them

Edited by michaelpearce (15 Jan 2019 11.46am)

Meyer is a nifty little player, and no, we don't play to his strengths. I think this is an example of poor recruitment because we're paying a lot for a player who doesn't fit our system.

You didn't see Benteke stop scoring? 3 goals in his last 35 games, I think more than that. We got mugged off by Liverpool, dragging out that transfer until the end of the window and then caving in to their full demands. I don't know who I'd replace Schlupp with, but £13 million and £55k p/w for someone of Championship quality at best? Not wise spending.

Yes there are some good buys in the team, but I think our recruitment is demonstrably poor from the over-inflated wages and transfer fees of many of our players, and the rarity with which we make a profit on anyone we sell on. We buy donkeys for gold and sell them for peanuts.

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michaelpearce grays 15 Jan 19 12.16pm
Originally posted by Bangell Meyer is a nifty little player, and no, we don't play to his strengths. I think this is an example of poor recruitment because we're paying a lot for a player who doesn't fit our system. You didn't see Benteke stop scoring? 3 goals in his last 35 games, I think more than that. We got mugged off by Liverpool, dragging out that transfer until the end of the window and then caving in to their full demands. I don't know who I'd replace Schlupp with, but £13 million and £55k p/w for someone of Championship quality at best? Not wise spending. Yes there are some good buys in the team, but I think our recruitment is demonstrably poor from the over-inflated wages and transfer fees of many of our players, and the rarity with which we make a profit on anyone we sell on. We buy donkeys for gold and sell them for peanuts. i was only on about his first season 17 goals, wasnt expecting a 14 goal drop,was looking at a more like 7 goal drop
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grays 15 Jan 19 12.16pm

Originally posted by Bangell

Meyer is a nifty little player, and no, we don't play to his strengths. I think this is an example of poor recruitment because we're paying a lot for a player who doesn't fit our system.

You didn't see Benteke stop scoring? 3 goals in his last 35 games, I think more than that. We got mugged off by Liverpool, dragging out that transfer until the end of the window and then caving in to their full demands. I don't know who I'd replace Schlupp with, but £13 million and £55k p/w for someone of Championship quality at best? Not wise spending.

i was only on about his first season 17 goals, wasnt expecting a 14 goal drop,was looking at a more like 7 goal drop

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Nobbybm Dartford 15 Jan 19 12.33pm
Originally posted by Bangell None of those look like wise spending. Also, rumours are that Meyer is on anything up to £170,000 p/w. A player who doesn't fit our system and rarely makes the team. That was a BS rumour from the Daily Fail. Several more valid sources reported it at less than half that (£80k) one of which is close to the club & rarely gets it wrong. You could also argue that half the first team do not fit our 'system' in their natural position too. I mean, we've been playing 442 for months with (usually) no actual striker on the pitch. Edited by Nobbybm (15 Jan 2019 12.33pm) Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 15 Jan 19 12.33pm

Originally posted by Bangell

None of those look like wise spending. Also, rumours are that Meyer is on anything up to £170,000 p/w. A player who doesn't fit our system and rarely makes the team.

That was a BS rumour from the Daily Fail. Several more valid sources reported it at less than half that (£80k) one of which is close to the club & rarely gets it wrong.

You could also argue that half the first team do not fit our 'system' in their natural position too. I mean, we've been playing 442 for months with (usually) no actual striker on the pitch.

Edited by Nobbybm (15 Jan 2019 12.33pm)

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Jan 19 12.43pm
Originally posted by Bangell Meyer is a nifty little player, and no, we don't play to his strengths. I think this is an example of poor recruitment because we're paying a lot for a player who doesn't fit our system. You didn't see Benteke stop scoring? 3 goals in his last 35 games, I think more than that. We got mugged off by Liverpool, dragging out that transfer until the end of the window and then caving in to their full demands. I don't know who I'd replace Schlupp with, but £13 million and £55k p/w for someone of Championship quality at best? Not wise spending. Yes there are some good buys in the team, but I think our recruitment is demonstrably poor from the over-inflated wages and transfer fees of many of our players, and the rarity with which we make a profit on anyone we sell on. We buy donkeys for gold and sell them for peanuts. Agree on Meyer. Needs nurturing but there’s a benefit to be had from it. Unfortunately who is known to be available and cost comes first, regardless of the result, although there is some expectancy of that I guess, unless you’re scouting is thorough and on going. Maybe it will be, or not. COYP
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Caterham 15 Jan 19 12.43pm

Originally posted by Bangell

Meyer is a nifty little player, and no, we don't play to his strengths. I think this is an example of poor recruitment because we're paying a lot for a player who doesn't fit our system.

Agree on Meyer. Needs nurturing but there’s a benefit to be had from it. Unfortunately who is known to be available and cost comes first, regardless of the result, although there is some expectancy of that I guess, unless you’re scouting is thorough and on going. Maybe it will be, or not.

COYP

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ChrisGC Wantage 15 Jan 19 3.23pm
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham The development plan for Selhurst Park/ Crystal Palace Football Club is pure fantasy. We're just rolling along until the wheels fall off and tv money dries up. I'd still expect to see minimalist interventions from the board to prolong a return on their respective interests but they're all dipping their snouts not investing in the future of a football club. Expect very little and you won't be disappointed! Edited by Henry of Peckham (15 Jan 2019 12.19am) Well said.
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Wantage 15 Jan 19 3.23pm

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

The development plan for Selhurst Park/ Crystal Palace Football Club is pure fantasy. We're just rolling along until the wheels fall off and tv money dries up. I'd still expect to see minimalist interventions from the board to prolong a return on their respective interests but they're all dipping their snouts not investing in the future of a football club. Expect very little and you won't be disappointed!

Edited by Henry of Peckham (15 Jan 2019 12.19am)

Well said.

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ChrisGC Wantage 15 Jan 19 3.25pm
Originally posted by JoeViper Does SP take a salary? Does anyone know what he pays himself? The books (which are available in the public domain) show he's on about £120k a week salary if my memory doesn't fail me, I'll try and find a link.
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Wantage 15 Jan 19 3.25pm

Originally posted by JoeViper

Does SP take a salary? Does anyone know what he pays himself?

The books (which are available in the public domain) show he's on about £120k a week salary if my memory doesn't fail me, I'll try and find a link.

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Daz.CPFC Bromley 15 Jan 19 3.33pm
Originally posted by ChrisGC The books (which are available in the public domain) show he's on about £120k a week salary if my memory doesn't fail me, I'll try and find a link. you will be looking for a long while. the books do not show players wages, this is confidential information PALACE TILL I DIE!!!
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Bromley 15 Jan 19 3.33pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

The books (which are available in the public domain) show he's on about £120k a week salary if my memory doesn't fail me, I'll try and find a link.

you will be looking for a long while. the books do not show players wages, this is confidential information

PALACE TILL I DIE!!!

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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 19 3.45pm
Originally posted by michaelpearce i was only on about his first season 17 goals, wasnt expecting a 14 goal drop,was looking at a more like 7 goal drop There is little doubt that Benteke paid back a portion of that investment in that season's goals. Since then he's been a bit of a passenger in the forward line and I'm hopeful that this was mainly down to carrying that injury and that we will see a better and more productive Benteke from here on. We will see.....what's certain is that if he is now half the player.....that's one hell of an albatross to be carrying fiscally because no one's going to take on a fifty percent version......So he'd sit out his contract. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2019 3.47pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Jan 19 3.45pm

Originally posted by michaelpearce

i was only on about his first season 17 goals, wasnt expecting a 14 goal drop,was looking at a more like 7 goal drop

There is little doubt that Benteke paid back a portion of that investment in that season's goals.

Since then he's been a bit of a passenger in the forward line and I'm hopeful that this was mainly down to carrying that injury and that we will see a better and more productive Benteke from here on.

We will see.....what's certain is that if he is now half the player.....that's one hell of an albatross to be carrying fiscally because no one's going to take on a fifty percent version......So he'd sit out his contract.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2019 3.47pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jan 19 3.46pm
Originally posted by Daz.CPFC you will be looking for a long while. the books do not show players wages, this is confidential information Directors' wages are shown though aren't they? At least in total. Also total wages are shown - not individual player's wages. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jan 19 3.46pm

Originally posted by Daz.CPFC

you will be looking for a long while. the books do not show players wages, this is confidential information

Directors' wages are shown though aren't they? At least in total. Also total wages are shown - not individual player's wages.

Red and Blue Army!

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 15 Jan 19 5.13pm
Originally posted by michaelpearce totally agree 1984 1999 and 2010 comes to mind and spurs are not buying so thats not the same The same could easily happen again without investment in the club ... our owners are in it for profit and are probably doing very nicely. I don't subscribe to the 'you've never had it so good' philosophy because I choose to pay out good money to watch Palace like everyone else. Spurs have invested heavily in their team and stadium and they're definitely no comparison to Palace. Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by michaelpearce

totally agree 1984 1999 and 2010 comes to mind and spurs are not buying so thats not the same

The same could easily happen again without investment in the club ... our owners are in it for profit and are probably doing very nicely.

I don't subscribe to the 'you've never had it so good' philosophy because I choose to pay out good money to watch Palace like everyone else.

Spurs have invested heavily in their team and stadium and they're definitely no comparison to Palace.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 19 5.19pm
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham I don't subscribe to the 'you've never had it so good' philosophy because I choose to pay out good money to watch Palace like everyone else. Yeah, but people were paying out that money during far worse times. It's just true....We haven't had it so good. This is rarefied air for Palace and while we had some luck in the Championship..... it also didn't happen by accident. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Jan 19 5.19pm

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

I don't subscribe to the 'you've never had it so good' philosophy because I choose to pay out good money to watch Palace like everyone else.

Yeah, but people were paying out that money during far worse times.

It's just true....We haven't had it so good.

This is rarefied air for Palace and while we had some luck in the Championship..... it also didn't happen by accident.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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ChrisGC Wantage 15 Jan 19 7.03pm
Originally posted by Daz.CPFC you will be looking for a long while. the books do not show players wages, this is confidential information You're incorrect as he's a director. Here's the info broken down by a nifty website concerning itself with all things football finance. [Link] 2.15 million salary plus around 500k going out to different companies he's director of along with repayment of a 6m loan, 250k interest on the loan. This is back in 2017. I imagine his salary has only gone up.
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Wantage 15 Jan 19 7.03pm

Originally posted by Daz.CPFC

you will be looking for a long while. the books do not show players wages, this is confidential information

You're incorrect as he's a director. Here's the info broken down by a nifty website concerning itself with all things football finance.

[Link]

2.15 million salary plus around 500k going out to different companies he's director of along with repayment of a 6m loan, 250k interest on the loan.

This is back in 2017. I imagine his salary has only gone up.

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