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 cpj  Kent 14 Nov 16 3.41pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
It's far too early for you to call that. Wayne was never better than Jules either. Jules is just older now but is a club legend. Something Wayne will never be. Here, or any club for that matter. Not disputing that, but he wasn't good enough last season. When he did make two appearances at the end of the season, he let in 6 goals, including gifting Southampton their first with one of his 'flaps' at the ball. I went to the Fulham pre-season friendly on 30 July and if that performance is anything to go by, then we should let him retire gracefully and stop giving him new contracts.
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| paperhat croydon 14 Nov 16 4.17pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
Not disputing that, but he wasn't good enough last season. When he did make two appearances at the end of the season, he let in 6 goals, including gifting Southampton their first with one of his 'flaps' at the ball. I went to the Fulham pre-season friendly on 30 July and if that performance is anything to go by, then we should let him retire gracefully and stop giving him new contracts. You seem happy to condemn JS and SM as making mistakes and not being 'good enough' yet ignore the plethora of class saves they have both made in the matches you mention, yet at the same time, WH is supposed to be the best keeper we have despite the well documented collection of gaffes he made throughout last season? how so?
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 14 Nov 16 4.17pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
WH hadn't played for weeks, and I'm honest enough to admit when he makes mistakes; SM has been playing every game and still messes up. By the way, I've been watching Palace since 1968 so I am not a troll. You, on the other hand, seem bent on pursuing this agenda against WH no matter what anyone else thinks. Rather like you, pursuing your agenda against Mandanda/Speroni no matter what anyone else thinks!
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| Painter Croydon 14 Nov 16 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
Not disputing that, but he wasn't good enough last season. When he did make two appearances at the end of the season, he let in 6 goals, including gifting Southampton their first with one of his 'flaps' at the ball. I went to the Fulham pre-season friendly on 30 July and if that performance is anything to go by, then we should let him retire gracefully and stop giving him new contracts. I agree totally with you, but others are blind to the obvious.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 16 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
I agree totally with you, but others are blind to the obvious. Mandanda has only made 24 International appearances for France over an 8 year period. Hennessey has over 60 caps since 2007.
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| cpj Kent 14 Nov 16 6.34pm |
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Originally posted by paperhat
You seem happy to condemn JS and SM as making mistakes and not being 'good enough' yet ignore the plethora of class saves they have both made in the matches you mention, yet at the same time, WH is supposed to be the best keeper we have despite the well documented collection of gaffes he made throughout last season? how so? A tad harsh - major errors against Charlton and Villa; could have done better with the first Man City goal and a couple of free-kicks. Other than that he was sound and played about 40 games. To my knowledge, SM (your favourite player according to your profile which explains your attitude) has made one great save (against Liverpool having already stayed on his line for two 6 yard headers) - not my definition of 'plethora'.
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| cpj Kent 14 Nov 16 6.37pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Rather like you, pursuing your agenda against Mandanda/Speroni no matter what anyone else thinks! See the comments below yours if you think I am alone in this. I have no agenda against them - just don't think JS is up to the required standard any more and SM hasn't yet shown why he should be number one (apart from that he is French and we all know that AP likes a French player as he signed loads when he was at Newcastle).
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 14 Nov 16 6.37pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Mandanda has only made 24 International appearances for France over an 8 year period. Hennessey has over 60 caps since 2007. Because of their number one is the nuts. Much like Nigel Martyn not really getting a look in for England. Or Ian Wright up front for that matter. 24 caps for your country when you're still a premier league player is actually a lot.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 16 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
See the comments below yours if you think I am alone in this. I have no agenda against them - just don't think JS is up to the required standard any more and SM hasn't yet shown why he should be number one (apart from that he is French and we all know that AP likes a French player as he signed loads when he was at Newcastle). Think that the 'Chief Scout', Graham Carr has a good knowledge of the French league, hence when Pardew was there players were signed from Toulouse,Bordeaux,Monaco,Lens,Montpellier,Nancy,Lille,Marseille,Rennes etc.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 14 Nov 16 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Mandanda has only made 24 International appearances for France over an 8 year period. Hennessey has over 60 caps since 2007. One has virtually NO competition for his place
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 14 Nov 16 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
See the comments below yours if you think I am alone in this. I have no agenda against them - just don't think JS is up to the required standard any more and SM hasn't yet shown why he should be number one (apart from that he is French and we all know that AP likes a French player as he signed loads when he was at Newcastle). Wasn't talking about others, was purely talking about your anti Mandanda agenda
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 14 Nov 16 8.23pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Wasn't talking about others, was purely talking about your anti Mandanda agenda He never said WH is fabulous. As i keep saying imo NONE of our keepers are top level and moronically shouting steeeve does not a keeper make. Just a thought but if he is so good how come we got him for peanuts and no other club had realised his world beating potential. He is 31 after all.
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